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Behringer A500 eindversterker
« Gepost op: 07 november 2017, 21:34:06 »
Geachte medeliefhebbers,

Inmiddels heb ik alweer een tijdje een Behringer A500 eindversterker in gebruik. Tot volle tevredenheid overigens.
Toch nieuwsgierig of het ding ergens en door iemand ooit eens serieus aan de tand gevoeld is, stootte ik op de volgende testcase.

De reviewer, Peter Aczel, is niet meer onder de levenden (in 2017, op 91-jarige leeftijd heeft hij zijn persoonlijke hemelvaart gemaakt).


Behringer Amp

02 December, 2005
2-Channel Power Amplifier
Behringer A500 “Reference Amplifier”



When I opened up the box the A500 came in and saw it for the first time, I said to myself, “This is either the most incredible bargain in the history of audio or a total fraud!” The MSRP is $230; I’ve seen it listed on the Internet for $180; and it’s a pretty nice-looking stereo amplifier rated at 160/160 watts into 8Ω, with quite a few professional features. Come on, what’s going on here?

Well, there are a number of things going on. To begin with, the measured performance of the A500 isn’t up to the level of a Bryston or a McIntosh, although that doesn’t mean the A500 will sound worse. (As I have said, and written, innumerable times, any two amplifiers with high input impedance, low output impedance, flat frequency response, and sufficiently low distortion and noise will sound exactly the same at matched levels if not clipped.) Then there are construction details, such as the XLR input jacks without push tabs, the bare-wires-only output terminals, the flimsy front panel, etc., etc., that would obviously be better on costlier amplifiers. The fact remains, however, that Behringer is able to offer sophisticated audio equipment at lower prices than anyone else. It’s a lesson to all of us audiophiles.

Behringer is a 16-year old German company with an exceptionally rapid worldwide growth pattern in the field of professional audio. At this point they cover the globe with a full line of products for musicians and sound engineers. These include mixing consoles, analog and digital signal processors, guitar amplifiers, studio reference monitors, microphones, public address enclosures, etc. The lesson Behringer exemplifies is that large-scale production combined with professional engineering can result in very high-quality products of great complexity at an amazingly low price. Think computers. How much would a top-of-the-line Dell or Gateway cost if manufactured in the quantities of a Mark Levinson or Krell preamp? Probably half a million. Professional audio on the Behringer scale marches to a totally different drummer than high-end consumer audio. Products are engineered for functionality, not for image and talking points, and made in sufficient quantities to eliminate manufacturing inefficiencies. As a result, features and performance can often equal and sometimes even surpass the high-end consumer product. It’s something that wide-eyed audiophiles should be more aware of.

The Design

The A500 is advertised as a “professional reference-class studio power amplifier” and at least in some ways it lives up to that highfalutin appellation. Each of the two channels has three input modes instead of one: balanced XLR, balanced ¼" phone jack, and unbalanced RCA. Each channel has a click-stop volume control and a multi-LED level meter that also indicates clipping. There is a fairly substantial toroidal power transformer, and the heat sinks are also far from puny. All that for $180 (all right, for $230). On the other hand, the so-called professional output terminals accept only spade lugs or bare wires—no banana plugs. And when I used the XLR jacks, one of them felt pretty loose—but it worked. (If a Mark Levinson or a Krell had loose input jacks, I’d send it back.) In addition, there are output jacks for speakers equipped with ¼" mono phone plugs, as found in some studios. What’s more, the two channels are bridgeable for mono operation with doubled power.

I had no circuit schematics, but the amplifier is claimed to be “servo-controlled.” Is that Behringerese for a feedback loop? Probably. But I really shouldn’t be so flip. For the money, the A500 is a minor miracle. If it turned out to be reliable—only time will tell—it would be a major miracle.

The Measurements

The specifications of the A500 are a bit too sanguine, it seems, but maybe it’s just my sample. With a little more conservative speccing the numbers could be right-on and still nothing to be ashamed of. What’s wrong with a 120/120-watt amplifier?

I’ll depart from my usual sequence of tests and start with the PowerCube because it gives a quicker overview of the amplifier’s performance. The PowerCube test measures the ability of an amplifier to drive widely fluctuating load impedances, such as presented by certain loudspeakers. As far as I know, The Audio Critic is the only American audio journal to publish PowerCube measurements. The instrument for the test is made in Sweden; it produces repeated 1 kHz tone bursts of 20 ms duration into 20 different complex load impedances across the amplifier (magnitudes of 8Ω, 4Ω, 2Ω, and 1Ω, phase angles of –60°, –30°, 0°, +30°, and +60°). The graphic output of the instrument shows the 20 data point connected to form a more or less cubelike polyhedron. The test really separates the men from the boys when it comes to real-world loads rather than just resistances.

The PowerCube of the A500 is shown in Fig. 1. There is basically nothing wrong with it. The sloping characteristic of the top of the polyhedron merely shows that the power supply is limited. Into an 8Ω load with a 0° phase angle (purely resistive) the maximum output is a little over 33 volts at the test limit of 1% distortion, which translates to 138 watts. Into 4Ω/0° the maximum output is a hair under 30 volts, equivalent to 220 watts, and then successively less into 2Ω and 1Ω. The output holds up extremely well, however, into capacitive (–) and inductive (+) phase angles at each impedance, which is most unusual in an inexpensive amplifier. A more nearly cubical picture could be drawn only by an amplifier with a much heavier power supply.



Fig. 1: PowerCube of one channel with both channels driven. The three axes are output in volts, impedance in ohms, and phase angle in degrees.
Fig. 2 shows the small-signal frequency response of the A500. The low-frequency response is unexceptionable, but on the top end –0.2 dB at 10 kHz and –0.6 dB at 20 kHz is a bit too much of a rolloff in my opinion. An 18-year-old audiophile could conceivably hear an infinitesimal dulling of transients through the amplifier. Not very likely, but not out of the question.



Fig. 2: Frequency response of one channel at 1 watt into 8Ω. The other channel was identical.
The “king of curves” in power-amplifier testing is distortion vs. power output. Fig. 3 and Fig. 4 show the THD+N of the A500 into 8Ω and 4Ω, respectively, at 20 Hz, 1 kHz, and 20 kHz. The curves are clearly noise-dominated and pretty much the same regardless of frequency, except that the 20 kHz curve shows a lot more noise at lower levels because its measurement bandwidth was opened up to 80 kHz to include the 40, 60, and 80 kHz harmonics.



Fig. 3: THD+N vs. power of one channel into 8Ω at 20 Hz (green), 1 kHz (cyan), and 20 kHz (red). The other channel was equal or better.



Fig. 4: THD+N vs. power of one channel into 4Ω at 20 Hz (green), 1 kHz (cyan), and 20 kHz (red). The other channel was equal or better.

Two things are obvious from these measurements. The minimum distortion never goes below –72 dB (0.025%), even in the best case, and the clipping levels are approximately 120 watts and 180 watts (generously!) at 8Ω and 4Ω. Not that there is anything wrong these numbers; they indicate a completely transparent amplifier of considerable power—but Behringer’s specs are <0.01% distortion and 160/230 watts into 8Ω/4Ω. As I said, maybe it’s just my sample, or maybe the manual was printed before actual production units came off the line, or maybe Behringer’s measurement conditions are based on a totally different standard. (I use the Audio Precision SYS-2722 instrument, the de facto standard in the USA.)

Fig. 5 shows the FFT spectrum of a 1 kHz tone at clipping level into 8Ω, in the same channel as Fig. 3. The Fig. 3 numbers are confirmed, but the good news is that the distortion is almost completely dominated by the second harmonic, which is basically harmless. (Thank heaven for FFT.)



Fig. 5: Spectrum of a 1 kHz tone at approx. 120 watts into 8Ω.

I also measured the single-point noise of the A500 (which needs no graphic representation). With a measurement bandwidth of 22 Hz to 22 kHz, it came to –99 dB in one channel and –100.5 dB in the other. That’s a higher noise floor than found in the best amplifiers but low enough for high-quality playback—you won’t hear it.

Channel separation (or crosstalk) is shown in Fig. 6. In most amplifiers crosstalk decreases steadily as the frequency is lowered; here it remains at a constant level which is a bit higher than ideal but still inaudible. The 4 dB difference between left-into-right and right-into-left crosstalk is normal variation and nothing to worry about.



Fig. 6: Channel separation at 1 watt into 8Ω.

The Sound

The measurements of the Behringer A500 are not quite as good as those of any number of more expensive solid-state amplifiers but they are more than good enough to meet all the criteria for transparent sound as specified above, in the second paragraph of this review. There is no such thing as an effect without a cause, and there is no scientifically verifiable characteristic that would cause the A500 to sound different from any other amplifier that meets those criteria. The main reason why golden-eared audiophiles hear differences between amplifiers that do meet those criteria is that they don’t listen at matched levels. (Let’s not even bring up the more complicated subject of double-blind listening tests.) If one amplifier is just 0.2 dB louder than another, it will sound different, and therefore “better” or “worse.”

Someone is sure to say at this point, “Well, what about that –0.6 dB rolloff at 20 kHz?” Come on. I can’t hear it; millions of others can’t hear it; if you can hear it, let that be the one and only way the A500 sounds “different.”

No, sound quality is not the issue here. I am not going to give you quasi-pornographic descriptions of the bloom of the high strings on one CD and the plumpness of the lower midrange on another, as I listened to the A500. Reliability is the one unanswered question in this case. When a high-performance piece of gear is this cheap, you naturally wonder how it will hold up under use. The A500 is too new to have a track record.

Conclusion

The Behringer A500 is an amazing phenomenon at the price. There is nothing else like it. I’ll tell you what. If you need a new power amplifier, or maybe just a spare amplifier, throw caution to the wind. Be the last of the big-time spenders. Buy the A500 at the lowest price you can find (maybe $180?) and take a chance on it. After all, it comes with a one-year warranty.

---Peter Aczel---


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Re: Behringer A500 eindversterker
« Reactie #1 Gepost op: 08 november 2017, 08:13:48 »
Ja en hij is niet alleen heul goed maar hij ziet er ook nog geweldig uit !!!
luistert allen naar FIP radio:jazz en wijde omstreken

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Re: Behringer A500 eindversterker
« Reactie #2 Gepost op: 08 november 2017, 08:54:28 »
Kortom: Het hoeft niet altijd duur te zijn ! Nu nog een paar van die voordelige Yamaha NS-555 speakers van € 219,00 per stuk er aan hangen en dan gaan met die banaan !
« Laatst bewerkt op: 08 november 2017, 09:00:21 door Audiofreak »

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Re: Behringer A500 eindversterker
« Reactie #3 Gepost op: 08 november 2017, 10:40:41 »
Wauw  229, die zien er al net zo geweldig uit als de behringer.
Het Moma in NY moet maar gelijk een paartje reserveren.
Heb je ze wel eens gehoord Audiofreak?
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Re: Behringer A500 eindversterker
« Reactie #4 Gepost op: 08 november 2017, 11:19:29 »
Nou Markus....chromcast erbij en dan ben je helemaal het mannetje.

Gr. Hans
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Re: Behringer A500 eindversterker
« Reactie #5 Gepost op: 08 november 2017, 12:07:46 »
Wauw  229, die zien er al net zo geweldig uit als de behringer.
Het Moma in NY moet maar gelijk een paartje reserveren.
Heb je ze wel eens gehoord Audiofreak?
Nee, ik heb ze niet gehoord, maar wat je er zo over leest is niet verkeerd. Uiteraard eerst gaan luisteren !!!

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Re: Behringer A500 eindversterker
« Reactie #6 Gepost op: 16 november 2017, 12:50:51 »
An inability to grasp science is no argument against it....

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Re: Behringer A500 eindversterker
« Reactie #7 Gepost op: 03 maart 2018, 12:15:02 »
Ja en hij is niet alleen heul goed maar hij ziet er ook nog geweldig uit !!!

 Stupid

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Re: Behringer A500 eindversterker
« Reactie #8 Gepost op: 03 maart 2018, 17:10:52 »
 ;D Het is heerlijk rondwentelen in je eigen wansmaak ,toch ? ;D
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Re: Behringer A500 eindversterker
« Reactie #9 Gepost op: 03 maart 2018, 17:13:21 »
;D Het is heerlijk rondwentelen in je eigen wansmaak ,toch ? ;D
Heb deze destijds voor 100 eurries gekocht en is gewoon niks mis mee.
Geen fratsen en doet waar ie voor gemaakt is.

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Re: Behringer A500 eindversterker
« Reactie #10 Gepost op: 03 maart 2018, 21:51:09 »
Met wansmaak doel ik op het uiterlijk, mooi van lelijkheid vinnik.
Als versterker een prima ding.
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Re: Behringer A500 eindversterker
« Reactie #11 Gepost op: 04 maart 2018, 10:02:28 »
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Re: Behringer A500 eindversterker
« Reactie #12 Gepost op: 04 maart 2018, 10:03:26 »
En de test van Peter Aczel maakt ook weer eens e.e.a helder.


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Re: Behringer A500 eindversterker
« Reactie #13 Gepost op: 04 maart 2018, 10:21:55 »
Soortgelijk verhaal
Het is inmiddels een verhaal dat bij mij al lang en breed weggezet is in de bibliotheek onder de kop "Been there, done that". Zelf ook een aantal van deze testen gedaan met dezelfde uitkomst of statistisch vergelijkbaar.

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How can it be possible that a basic system with such a price difference against the "reference" one, poorly placed, using the cheapest signal cables found, couldn't be distinguished from the more expensive one?
Deze is voor de hand liggend: omdat de verschillen te klein zijn. De gebruikte apparaten zitten bomvol correct ontworpen elektronica, dwz het is op tegenkoppeling gebaseerd. Dat betekent dat een simpele passieve weerstand het verschil maakt. Die zijn zo goed, daar gaat geen op koolstof gebaseerde levensvorm nog iets op aan te merken hebben. Patent stamt uit 1928? (onzeker)

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And, most of it all, how come the cheap system was chosen by so many people as the best sounding of the two?
Dat is statistiek. Als er geen verschil waarneembaar is, gaat alles netjes verdeeld worden (je kunt dus niet aantonen dat het geen verschil geeft). Van het derde deel dat geen antwoord gegeven heeft, mag je de uitslag netjes verdelen over A en B. Dat hadden ze ook gedaan als ze hadden moeten kiezen. Also been there, done that.

Bovendien ga je met muziek sowieso geen verschillen horen, en als je dat wel gaat horen is het wel heul erg bont gemaakt qua vervorming. Muziek maskeert bijna alles. Als je het met zuivere tonen (sinussen is het makkelijkst) gaat doen, zou het wel eens wel een verschil kunnen maken. Maar ja, wie luistert er nu voor zijn/haar plezier naar een sinus?

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Re: Behringer A500 eindversterker
« Reactie #14 Gepost op: 04 maart 2018, 10:29:32 »
Maar ja, wie luistert er nu voor zijn/haar plezier naar een sinus?

Niemand denk ik.   ;D


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